Chris Camillo Says Ordinary Investors Can Spot Big Trends First
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A post highlights investor Chris Camillo, a Market Wizards subject, arguing that ordinary people see major investment trends in everyday life before professionals, and that he relies on observation rather than fundamental or technical analysis. It also references a debate with quant manager Tom Costello.
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One of Schwager's Unknown Market Wizards uses zero fundamental analysis and zero technical analysis.
What he does instead:
Featured in Schwager's Unknown Market Wizards. Turned $20K into ~$80M. Built TickerTags, sold to Jefferies' M Science.
Chris Camillo (@ChrisCamillo) explains:
"There's a smokescreen that an ordinary person doesn't have the skill set. I would argue the opposite. Ordinary people have the ultimate skill set."
"They're so deeply rooted in the real world. Not just from reading social media, but from being part of that world. Deep in the conversations about what people are doing every day, what we're feeling, what we're spending our money on."
"How our culture is changing. How consumer behavior is changing. How product trends are shifting. Most ordinary people are perfectly suited to occasionally see something in the real world and connect the dots to a monstrously big investment opportunity."
"I've been speaking to people about this for two decades. They saw AI. They saw AWS early. They saw Salesforce early, because they worked at a company that started using it and everyone at the sales conference was going through the same onboarding."
"Go back over the last 30 years and look at the biggest investments an individual could have made. 75% of those were easily seen by ordinary people first."
"You don't need to nail them all. You need to nail one or two or three over the course of your entire life."
"That's all I do. I have no financial infrastructure. I use zero fundamental analysis, zero technical analysis. I have virtually no tool set. All I do is observe the world and see change happening in it."
What he does instead:
Featured in Schwager's Unknown Market Wizards. Turned $20K into ~$80M. Built TickerTags, sold to Jefferies' M Science.
Chris Camillo (@ChrisCamillo) explains:
"There's a smokescreen that an ordinary person doesn't have the skill set. I would argue the opposite. Ordinary people have the ultimate skill set."
"They're so deeply rooted in the real world. Not just from reading social media, but from being part of that world. Deep in the conversations about what people are doing every day, what we're feeling, what we're spending our money on."
"How our culture is changing. How consumer behavior is changing. How product trends are shifting. Most ordinary people are perfectly suited to occasionally see something in the real world and connect the dots to a monstrously big investment opportunity."
"I've been speaking to people about this for two decades. They saw AI. They saw AWS early. They saw Salesforce early, because they worked at a company that started using it and everyone at the sales conference was going through the same onboarding."
"Go back over the last 30 years and look at the biggest investments an individual could have made. 75% of those were easily seen by ordinary people first."
"You don't need to nail them all. You need to nail one or two or three over the course of your entire life."
"That's all I do. I have no financial infrastructure. I use zero fundamental analysis, zero technical analysis. I have virtually no tool set. All I do is observe the world and see change happening in it."
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Ex-Tudor quant PM Tom Costello (20%/yr, 1.4% max drawdown) DEBATES Market Wizard Chris Camillo ($20K → $80M, tells you to expect 70% drawdowns).
Chris Camillo (@ChrisCamillo) turned $20K into ~$80M over 18 years, audited by Jack Schwager for Unknown Market Wizards at 77% annualized. Founded TickerTags, sold to Jefferies. Co-founder of Dumb Money.
Tom Costello (@tcoste110) ran money at Tudor, Moore Capital, and Caxton. Started as a quant on JPM's exotic swaps desk. Now CIO at Bedrock Digital Assets.
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